Hammond can speak out now about significant leaks - VoR report
Sean hello! And welcome to the program. And right away, let me ask you this – what was the reaction to the sentence from Mr. Hammond and his lawyers? Anything in the media so far?
Well, Hammond released a statement and he said basically that he kind of feels relieved that the sentence has been handed out, so that he can speak out now about what actually happened and the significance of the leaks, and what has been going on.
Any reaction to the news from other sides, from anyone in the media? Has anyone reacted to this so far besides them?
I think that what is significant about what happened yesterday is not necessarily the sentence or what happened in the court room, it is what was revealed in the leaks, that is not reported so often. Because mainly it was talked about that him and others had stolen credit cards information, but a whole bunch of other significant stuff came out in the Stratfor email leaks.
And so, what was originally going on (and this is according to a research by Abi Hassen from the National Lawyers Guild) is that Hammond and others involved with the hack, they were after emails that revealed the inner workings of the private security firm Stratfor and how the firm was doing espionage on corporations and foreign governments, and used their connections in the US Government to sell US information.
So, the credit card information that he was convicted for just happened to be there because of sloppy IT security at Stratfor.
How does Hammond’s conviction affect the Anonymous movement itself?
The Anonymous movement, I’m not sure I can say so much about how it is going to affect it. Obviously, it might have weakened it a little bit, because Jeremy Hammond did admit to working with Anonymous. But some of the important things that also came out in the leaks that he revealed (and this is according to a research by Chris Hedges) is that there was no division between corporate spying and government spying.
It also showed how the US Government was spying on and infiltrating the Occupy Movement. And it showed how the security officials in the Government and Stratfor were trying to link nonviolent protest groups, such as Occupy and groups protesting climate change, with terrorist groups so they could apply terrorism laws against these groups. And so, those were the most important things that came out of those leaks.
So, also, as I understand fraudulent donations were uncovered by Hammond as well. Do you think Stratfor will be investigated for that? Like you said earlier, of course, corporate or government spying it is all the same and we’ve heard quite a lot about NSA spying recently as well and, obviously, not a lot of people are happy about that. Now, that certain things have been uncovered about Stratfor, do you think they will be facing potential investigation from the Government and what’s been uncovered by Hammond?
I’m not sure. The way it looks is that Stratfor has kind of framed the whole issue in a way that it just puts all the blame onto Hammond, Anonymous and other hackers that were involved. And so, it looks as if it is a simple fraud by Hammond and others whereas we are kind of missing this whole thing that you are talking about right now. Like I interviewed somebody yesterday that was involved with Jeremy Hammond’s defense committee and he brought up some one the issues of Dow Chemical paying Stratfor to spy on activists in relation to the Bhopal chemical disaster. And that’s just incredible. And in that specific one, they were spying on the Yes Men, which is an infamous activist satire group.
So, those are the issues that really need to be talked about. But when you look at how it is framed in the media, the media is showing that it is these hacktivists that stole this credit cards information and kind of did like a Robyn Hood-style attack. It is kind of gets confused about what are the real issues. And I think that Stratfor or other private intelligence agencies, or their clients which included the US Government agencies, the defense intelligence agency, the foreign embassies, the US Army, UN, Goldman Sachs, Shell, Nestle – they have some kind of interest in framing the issue in a way that gets attention off of them.