Sputnik: What can you say about Pakistan's intentions? How much of an encumbrance would this be for the United States?
Brian Williams: We've been down this road before. Recall if you will that twice before there have been sort of clashes between the US and Pakistan. On one occasion, US Navy SEALS infiltrated into a tribal zone in Pakistan, trying to kill al-Qaeda targets, and killed civilians. The Pakistanis were enraged, and they [temporarily] closed down the supply lines for troops [supplied via] the Khyber Pass into Afghanistan.
Sputnik: How could the move change US attitudes toward Islamabad now, and what implications could follow if Pakistan proceeds with their threat? It's a difficult road ahead, it seems.
Brian Williams: It is indeed. At its height, America had over 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, and they really relied on the Khyber Pass to get these supplies to the vast army fighting in Afghanistan. After the killing of Bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan, there were many voices in Washington, among Republicans in particular, who saw collusion. They sensed that perhaps Pakistan was covering up for Bin Laden and hiding him. I suspect they weren't; we've found nothing in the documents found in the documents found in his compound there in Abbottabad to indicate that he was working for the Pakistanis.
But there is certainly a lot of tension in this relationship. And the main cause of it is of course that Pakistan continues to allow the Afghan Taliban [to be based in areas of] western Pakistan, and to use the territory as a springboard for attacking the US-backed government across the border in Afghanistan.
Brian Williams: I think Trump's been highly erratic since he's been president. A little while ago he praised the Pakistanis as being 'fantastic', in his typical over-the-top rhetoric. And then suddenly the pendulum swings, and he's trying to hold their feet to the fire and force them to stop supporting terrorism, whether the Afghan Taliban based on their territory, or other jihadi groups [focused] more towards Kashmir or India, like Lashkar-e-Taiba, or Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.
There is this sense that someone got to Trump, who of course is a novice when it comes to foreign policy, and explained to him that Pakistan has this relationship, and serves as a sort of springboard for jihadi terrorism against both India and Afghanistan, but yet here we are pumping tens of billions of coalition support funds into the country to support their anti-terrorism efforts.
Sputnik: What's your outlook then for the future of US-Pakistani relations? Do you think things will go back to the way they were, or is this the start of a new order between countries which have long had a very delicate relationship?
Brian Williams: I really strongly assessed this on-and-off relationship between Pakistan and America going back to the 70s in my recent book 'Predators: The CIA's Drone War on Al-Qaeda'. You have these ups and downs, depending on the foreign policy initiatives of the US administration at the time. And I think that the Trump administration has swung the pendulum this way, and there will be a lull in relations. But it tends to come back and forth, and I suspect the breach will be healed, and will go back to business as usual.
But the Pakistanis just don't trust America. Pakistan annually has the worst ratings for popular support for America in the world. America's sorely unpopular in Pakistan. They feel used from back during the 1980s [during the Soviet War in Afghanistan]. So there is deep distrust. But in the long run, Pakistan cannot [manage without US support], and America needs Pakistan to wage its war in Afghanistan. So despite the rift, I suspect that sooner or later, the breach will be healed.
Sputnik: What's your best advice to these two countries then to heal this wound that has been opened up? What can you suggest or recommend that may result in a solution to this problem?
Brian Williams: I think the two sides should sit down and negotiate and try to find out how we can move ahead with perhaps having the Pakistanis attack and dislodge the Taliban and other jihadi groups in our interest, and theirs too. Because they're isolated diplomatically…On our part, America needs to understand that Pakistan is a sovereign nation…They do have interests that diverge from ours, especially in Afghanistan. One thing the Pakistanis are very afraid of in Afghanistan is growing Indian presence. We need to recognize that legitimate fear on behalf of the Pakistanis. So I think we need to have a huge diplomatic effort to save this very, very important strategic relationship with Islamabad, perhaps one of the greatest key allies thus far in the war on terror.
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