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    According to the US Justice Department, a Chinese national has been arrested in the US for allegedly spying for the Ministry of State Security for China. The suspect is accused of secretly carrying out the orders of an officer in a branch of China's Ministry of State Security.

    Radio Sputnik discussed the impact of the latest move by the US to arrest a Chinese national on spy accusations with Andrew Leung, an independent China strategist based in Hong Kong.

    Sputnik: What is your comment on the latest Chinese spy story in the US?

    Andrew Leung: These spy stories, whether true or not, are nothing new. It's happening all over the world; you can see them in movies. But that is only the tip of an iceberg; there's a much bigger picture behind these stories. The big picture is that what we're seeing is not just a trade war between the US and China, it's not just focusing on various spy stories and things like that; it is the manifestation of a change in the US-China relationship.

    Sputnik: If we look at all of the recent allegations, they seem to coincide with the reasons behind Trump's trade war. The reason that he gives is that China is gaining access to high technology unfairly, as well as copyright concerns; do you think that there's really a single reason for this shift in US-China relations? Did something cause it or is it just Trump's worldview and his approach?

    Andrew Leung: I think this is very real and it is not as one-sided. Let's be clear: some of the concerns are real and justified; these concerns are shared not only in the US across the aisle by both parties, but they are shared by the EU.

    These worries are there sometimes; some local governments and some Chinese companies are using unfair means to force the transfer of technology, proprietary technology. And, of course, it's a fact that China is not opening up all over the place because China learned a big lesson from the collapse of the former USSR.

    The former USSR collapsed because it tried to open up the economy much more quickly than the situation allowed; in a year everything had to be opened up and that lead to the collapse.

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    China learned a big lesson from that; certain sectors of the Chinese economy remain not as open to foreign companies and governments, compared with the openness of these sectors in Western countries and in the US.

    Each country has a different situation and a different stage of development. It's a complex situation. Not all these worries and accusations are unreal, some of them are quite real; but then this is only part of the story.

    One has got to look at the totality of things to understand where the US is coming from, where China is coming from and what the drivers and the dynamics that drive this confrontation and the change in the relationship are.

    Sputnik: Do you think that China will agree to address legitimate concerns regarding technology and copyrights? Do you think China has the will to come back to the negotiating table with the US, or have we gone beyond the point of no return? Perhaps, China has just understood that the US is unhappy about their growth and about them possibly being a threat and a very strong competitor; if that's the case, what do you see as the new trajectory for Chinese development? Are they going to steer away from the US or is there still a chance that we're going to see some kind of reconciliation?

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    Andrew Leung: This is a very good question because we are seeing a reset of the old world order. The older rules are written mainly by the US and its Western allies after WWII when the US was the only hegemon, the only superpower that dominated all fields of businesses, not only the size of its economy, the leadership in technology, not only ideology and all the institutions like the World Bank or the IMF and of course the supremacy of the US dollar, which has been unchallenged, even now. All this translates into the great power and influence that shakes the world order after WWII.

    The views and opinions expressed by the speaker do not necessarily reflect those of Sputnik.

    The views and opinions expressed in the article do not necessarily reflect those of Sputnik.


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