American Indians seeking Russia's 1700 peace treaty belt - Mohawk Elder Horn
In the seventeen hundreds leaders of the native nations of North America presented 13 royal families of the European invaders with Wampun belts which signified peacve and served as a treaty by which the Europeans were to respect the rights of the natives of the Americas, which they called Great Turtle Island. Mohawk Elder Kahendinetha Horn spoke to the Voice of Russia on these issues and the mystery surrounding a belt that was presented to then Russian Ambassador to Britain Boris Ivanovich Kurakin and which Tsar Nicolas had to be aware of. She underlines the fact that Russia and Russians never took part in the genocide of the native people, unlike the rest of Europeans.
Hello! This is John Robles, you are listening to an interview with Kahentinetha Horn. She is a member of the Mohawk Nation and the Bear Clan, and the owner and publisher of
Robles: Hello Kahentinetha! How are you this evening?
Horn: I'm very-very well.
Robles: It's a pleasure to be speaking with you again. Can you tell us a little history back in the 1700s, a story regarding the Russian Ambassador to Britain, Mr. Boris Ivanovich Kurakin, who became a famous writer? Why was he important to the native indigenous people of North America? And what connection does he have with the Native Americans?
Horn:Well, we are going back to when our people – the Iroquois – sent the five chiefs over to Europe and one died on the way. But they came from the each of our five nations of the Iroquois Confederacy.
They went over there to meet with the 13 families. And they took with them the Guswhenta – the Two Row Wampum – which is the basis of international law. I've talked about that before.
So, they gave them each a belt. And that was explained to them how you can arrive at peace. You know, arrive at peaceful way of living.
So, we were very-very disappointed because, except for Russia, the other families didn't really have any interest. They kind of made fun of us, like we were a bunch of children. But in fact, it was very important, because it was a mission of peace and that's why we sent our people.
The only time that we ever sent our chiefs over, and that was in 1710. And Peter I or somebody was there. These wampum belts were presented and what I want to know is where that belt is. Did he take is back to Russia or was somebody there instead of him, because somebody was there from Russia to meet our chiefs.
And our chiefs went there from Turtle Island to spread the peace to the world. And when they got back, what they told us about these people that they met – the 13 families, except for the Russians, they said (and we were appalled with what they said to us) – they rely on the written word. It is how they will be judged. And that was contrary to how we judge ourselves, because we rely on the Wampum, which is in our minds. The Wampum is to remind us of what is in our minds.
And so, that's why we would like to ask you Russian people if you could find that Wampum. And the reason why I became interested in this was because I started reading about the Permanent Court of Arbitration. And in 1899 Tsar Nicolas II of Russia set up the oldest court for international dispute resolution, which I see as another gift from the Russians to the world. It is in the Hague.
And, you know, the UN hasn't worked very well and neither have any of these other organizations that are supposed to bring peace to the earth and to stop all wars. None of them have been able to do this.
Now, Tsar Nicolas, who was the last tsar of Russia, he set this court up for the same exact situation that we indigenous here are finding ourselves in. We have the same criminal bankers who murdered him and his family – the Romanovs – set up the genocide of over a 150 million of our people. And I must say here, interject that the Russians were never a part of this genocide.
We want these people to be tried – the crown or these bankers and the Vatican. They conspired to kill Nicolas and they conspired to kill our people. So, these people have claimed a false right to rule the world based on phony stories that they created themselves.
So, the reason why I would like to ask the Russian people to help us is that we have already gone through the kangaroo courts here in Canada about our land and about our trust fund. And the Federal Court of Canada wouldn't even hear the case that I took when I was almost murdered at the border. I almost died. And then, when we also took a land case to that court, which in the Admiralty Court of the Sea, we know now that we can never get a fair trial in any corporate court here in Canada.
So, we'd like to approach this international court that was set up by Tsar Nicolas for our long-standing issues. And we need help from anyone who can help us.
We want to know, this Boris Ivanovich Kurakin, he was the Russian Ambassador to Britain in 1710 and he became a famous writer, and we'd like to know if he ever wrote anything about that meeting in 1710 with our chiefs. Because oftentimes they will shred and they will destroy these records. We can't find anything. And I don't know if it is by design.
And these wampum belts were not meant to be just gifts from our chiefs, they were passports that gave them the right to visit our land here. And when the Great Peace of Montreal was signed and received, they all agreed to spread the peace. And so, instead, what they ended up doing was spreading war over here. You know, they set up that false flag called the American Revolution. And it was the same families that were on both sides.
So, we knew that, we are not stupid. And we already knew about the 13 families and our chiefs went over there and talked to them all. And when they got there, what they found was all these families were all at war with each other. So, there was always a war going on over there one after the other.
Robles: Who were these families?
Horn:These are bizarrest humans, that who they are. And they are the ones that are in the Vatican, they are the royal family. And they are all from the Rothschild. And they are all kind of inbred with each other. They are the banking families and they set up this whole big hierarchical banking system which monetizes everything and which is going to cover the whole world with this new world order.
So, they came over here. Rothschild sent them all over here and then they carried out the genocide of our people. But our chiefs went over there to show them how to stop these wars, so that we can enjoy peace. That's why our chiefs went over there.
And we still are the keepers of the law of peace, the Mohawks. And we keep the Gayanashagowa, which is the Great Law of Peace. We still do that, it was handed down to us from thousands of years. We know what our job is. And that is our responsibility. And we will keep on doing it.
So, now, we want our indigenous sovereignty to be respected. And I'll take you back a little bit. In 1704…
Robles: If we could, before you get started on that. Can you describe to us what does the Wampum look like?
Horn:Yes! It is made out of the wompums, which are the shells. And it is beaded. It has a white background, which is the sea of life or the river of life. And there are two parallel rows of purple beads. And what it symbolizes is that these are the treaties that we made amongst ourselves, among our own people and we became allies with hundreds of people here, on Great Turtle Island.
In the case of the ones we made with the Europeans, one row symbolizes the vessel of the non-native people and the other row is the canoe of our people, and we are supposed to go down the river of life side-by-side, parallel, never crossing over and never going on their vessel and then never coming on our vessel.
And they were to never have any right to our land. They could live here, they could grow food, they could speak their language, they could have their own culture but they could never have our land. And that is what it looks like. This is called the Guswhenta.
Robles: Okay, it is a belt, right? It is like a belt. About how wide is it?
Horn:It could be of any width, but it is a wide belt. The original ones were quite big. You know, maybe 3 feet long and maybe 10 inches wide. You could make it long to drape it over your shoulder or you could make it as a belt, because it is a symbol. And it is a very important symbol, because the Two Row, the Guswhenta is the basis of international law.
It is a symbol that we respect each other and that we are equals, we have a voice. And so, that was the agreement that we made. And the Europeans agreed to that.
Robles: I'm trying just to figure out, maybe, if we could find one that is still in a perfect condition. Were these made of leather only or cloth, or what?
Horn:They are made of shells, Quahog shells, white and purple shells and they are woven with sinew. And the children here in school, they all make them, and they all draw them. It is on everything, because that's what they see. The children grow up seeing that. It makes an imprint on their mind. And so, we grow up knowing that we have to respect all peoples.
Now, what happened in 1704, I go back to that, Queen Anne commissioned this neutral subcommittee of the treaty council. This is British. And they were an independent and impartial third-party court that were to settle all the boundary disputes between the Crown and us.
So, there was a case called the Mohegan versus Connecticut in 1704. The precedent that was set was that there had to be a neutral third party to decide any of these issues. So, that's another aspect of the international law that is important, that comes from the experiences that they've had with us. And during that time, after that, for over 300 years money was put in the Indian trust fund. You know, I've told you about the Indian trust fund.
Horn:Now, how much money would there be today?
Robles: 700 trillion, I believe you said.
Horn:Yes! We never surrendered any of our land. And they took our resources but they put money into this trust fund from everything that they took.
So, we were never a part of that Corporation of Canada, but they had to adhere to this Guswhenta Agreement. And they didn't follow it, but the trust fund is there and money has gone into it, and they've been using it for themselves.
So, now, what we want to do is – they made a law that we were not persons and that they were our trustees, and they took over control of that trust fund. They've been spending it and taking it, and stealing it. This is one of our gripes, you know, the fact that they've taken all our resources and then they now taken the funds that have gone into the Indian Trust Fund.
So, the part that is important is that we recognized that the British constitutional law is for the British people, it is not for us. So, according to the Guswhenta, instead of staying in their vessel the newcomers that came here disrespected us, but they also disrespected the law of the land, which the Gayanashagowa – the Great Law. And then, they set out to murder all of us. They gave themselves this right under their corporate bi-laws. So, they committed this horrific genocide. And they even ignored their own constitutions and human rights provisions.
And I must add again that Russia never took part in the genocide of our people. So, we want to find this belt if it is in Russia somewhere. All the royal families got one, including Russia. And as far as we could tell, they appeared to be one of the leading families. And whoever it was, listened very intently to our chiefs explain the Great Law over in London. That is what we always do. We always explain the Great Law.
So, these belts are the real peace treaty for the whole world. That what we've been told, that's come down to us. That is what we know and that is what we are supposed to do – spread the peace throughout the world. And we have this philosophy and tools to do it.
So, we wondered if there was any way that we could start an action in this court that was set up by Tsar Nicolas in 1899. It was the first such court and it is still there. He must have known about the Guswhenta belt, he must have. I thought about it, we have to do something.
And the Rothschilds stole everything from us. These criminals have just been found guilty of genocide by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission here into the deaths of hundreds of thousands of our children in the residential schools. These criminals have to be tried before an international court for planning and carrying out this genocide of our people, and for stealing all our resources.
You were listening to an interview with Kahentinetha Horn – a member of the Mohawk Nation and the Bear Clan, and the owner and publisher of Mohawnationknews.com. She is also an elder with the Mohawk Nation. That was part 1 of a longer interview. You can find the next part of this interview on our website at voiceofrussia.com