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    'We Expect A Military Escalation in Syria': Turkey’s True Motives

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    As Turkey shows increasing signs of invading Syria, Turkish journalist Erman Cete and Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Institute speak to Radio Sputnik’s Loud & Clear to discuss the meaning for relations between Russia and NATO.

    "We expect a military escalation in Syria," Cete tells Loud & Clear host Brian Becker.

    On Thursday, the Russian Defense Ministry also announced that it has seen mounting evidence of Ankara’s plans to launch an invasion. This comes as Syrian peace talks have broken down in Geneva – something that Turkey and the West blames on Russia.

    "[The peace talks collapse are] blamed on Russia for Russia’s continued bombing of Syria. This is the line that they’re taking," McAdams says. "But I think the reality is that the US and Turkey and the other various allies are having an absolute panic attack over the very dramatic advances over the last couple of days.

    "If Turkey were to have a major ground invasion of Syria…this will be such a dramatic escalation it could not be taken without the explicit OK of Washington and NATO."

    This shows that the West may be willingly inching towards World War III with Russia.

    "Erdogan is trapped, so he wants an escalation between NATO and Russia," Cete says. "His main salvation from Syria and the inner politics of Turkey is to rage a war against a foreign enemy."

    War with Syria would likely lead to large scale unrest within Turkey, as well.

    "So if the Turkish government starts a war in Syria, the domestic situation in Turkey also escalates," Cete says. "A large part of the Turkish community is against any kind of war against Syria."

    At the same time, Saudi Arabia has also expressed its willingness to send ground forces into Syria, should coalition allies decide that such an operation is necessary. Though for Daniel McAdams, this possibility is more laughable than frightening.

    “The Saudi Arabian ground forces in Yemen have met their match, and then some. As a matter of fact, they have been so inadequate on the battlefield they had to import 10,000 Sudanese mercenaries to do their fighting for them.

    "The idea that Saudi Arabia is going to send some of its perfumed princes over to invade Syria, I think at least we get a little bit of a laugh out of this."

    With the collapse of Syrian peace talks, the conflict may only end once the West and its allies cease to interfere in the country’s affairs.

    "I think to reach a political solution in Syria, Turkey and Saudi Arabia must be eliminated, because these two countries, right now, are preventing a peaceful solution in Syria," Cete says.

    "I think the failure of the peace talks has exposed the fact that there are no moderate rebel forces in Syria," McAdams adds. "This was a fiction that the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the others have been putting forth for so long, and in desperation you saw the US and the Saudis trying to put forth al-Qaeda’s allies in the peace talks."


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      vendorin reply toFlorianGeyer(Show commentHide comment)
      FlorianGeyer, nuclear war is pointless all sides know this. Put it this way, the USA cannot hit Russia with a nuke even if they wanted to do it for the sake of an experiment. 20 years ago, yes. Today, no. And they know it. On the other side, Russians can hit the USA, and this is why we won't see a nuclear war. The Americans will stand down. What Russia does not want to do is create a similar or identical image worldwide as the States. The world is sick of it. I bet that if each one of us had a button or a switch millions and billions of people would use it to switch America off. America - worldwide is HATED even by those so called allies. That is the truth.

      And as for Turkey, I personally would love to see the Turks wiped off the planet but I know that it is not possible so I do not obsess over it. They are going to get their arses kicked. Not a racist, just a realist. They got their arses kicked in the last century and it will happen again because they are Muslims. That's how the West sees it even though they would not openly admit it.
    • FlorianGeyerin reply tovendor(Show commentHide comment)
      Essentially the biggest danger to the world is that far too many Americans think that the lesser beings in other countries all aspire to be just like an American. Americans tend to think that other peoples love them . They do not.
      In fact rather lot of people consider Americans to be braggarts with little empathy for anything at all really.
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      vendorin reply toFlorianGeyer(Show commentHide comment)
      FlorianGeyer, it is American arrogant world view, yes. I refuse, for instance, to ever go the the States, simply because they are not going to fingerprint me, MFers! I am not a criminal nor am I in a conc. camp, nor am I a black dude as they are so used to treat people as slaves. Anything, anywhere, and always I can do to argue against them I do it, all my life. But when they do something good, and there are many good things the Americans did I always support it too. It is hard not to generalise people and I try not to because there are millions and millions of good Americans, honest, hard working and equally abused as the rest of the world by their criminal government. I just hope that one day these good Americans will raise and stand up to their leaders, and repeat the effective results of the French Revolution in the USA!
    • Drain the swamp
      The tatar slav traders were evicted from Crimea and returned to Central Asia. It is time for their turkish customers to be evicted from Constatinople, it is Mother Russia's destinty to remove this evil hiding under the banner of Islam, whilst stashing euros underneath their wives scarfs !!
    • Hermesin reply toFlorianGeyer(Show commentHide comment)
      and what about the nuclear weapons that are in the hands of the Sunnis. Aren't you affraid the americans are depending on a strategy in which these will be used against Russia in a nuke war seemingly unconnected to the USA. If the americans play it right they might not even have to worry about the conflict ever reaching them.
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      michaelin reply torasoj(Show commentHide comment)
      rasoj, I agree, all countries have their figureheads, some their dictators and so on. Remove them and then you would see another to fill that one's shoes. :(
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      michaelin reply tosiberianhusky(Show commentHide comment)
      siberianhusky, well, at least they have their priorities! :)
    • avatar
      michaelin reply tovendor(Show commentHide comment)
      vendor, draw the line and stare them down? Isn't that what Putin has been doing? Or are you suggesting that subtlety doesn't work with the west? :)
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      michaelin reply tovendor(Show commentHide comment)
      vendor, I'll agree with your call there. I think that it is part of the western journalistic agenda. The chicken little effect if you will. It will be strength through seriousness as well as arms that will keep the situation in check. At least, that's my interpretation. :)
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      michaelin reply toFlorianGeyer(Show commentHide comment)
      Florian, agreed, but I wonder if the turkish military will act the same way as the wehrmacht - too little too late? Your comment though does have me curious - how much support does erdogan have?
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      michaelin reply tovendor(Show commentHide comment)
      vendor, maybe we could see america as Janus?
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      ivanwa88, agreed, just thinking though, that there would be some other issues (partially) resolved if this scenario was play out... I'm thinking of the refugees in the eu. Reduction of stressors in the lives of the eu populace. I'm sure others could list a few more... :)
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      ivanwa88, agreed with the common sense. :) The 'but' for me is when looking at reports and reading comments about the refugee issue, I do wonder how many would return once Syria is at peace? I do believe that I was placing the horse before the cart as I was identifying what I considered to be minor issues which would be addressed after the military situation resolved itself. :)
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      The Americans never wanted peace anyway. They want war, they want Qatari gas and Saudi gas through a friendly regime in Syrian, through Turkey and into Europe.
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      Turkey must think it needs to hurry up before Iran gets its military wish list filled by Russia and China. Right now they enjoy a comfy margin of superiority in jets and armour. They might plan on Russian forces in Syria staying in the west, not thinking about the Russians opening another front because of the NATO attack clause. They must not realize that Russia does have the capability to get massive armour and air forces into Syria by way of Iran and Iraq.
    • Wisdom Faith
      The little russian baby smell alot of shit better change he's diaper next time he's on thoose minister of defense video we see the brown trail.
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      1. as I read your comments, what we are witnessing now is an opportunity to bring some stability to the region - not just the country. You mention cultural and historical issues and to me this suggests a model for stability in the middle east. Especially as adjacent there are the historical flash points of israel and lebanon. Strategically, Syria is important as a medn port for Russian naval ships, as well as an ally to provide a potential second front against turkey for either Russian or Iranian interests. I don't know enough about the religious ramifications or connections to comment.
      2. any points made by people here can lead to enlightenment, it depends on what place our thinking is at. For me, the comments that you have made need to be reflected upon, not simply responded to. That is respect for another's opinion. :)
      3. the pipeline... well, Syria certainly to have the right to decide what they want and not what somebody else in or outside of the region wants. It is, after all, their territory. The ramifications for Russia; reminds me of a group I belonged to a while ago, where we looked at issues potentially leading to war - this fits as part of an ongoing campaign of the energy wars. In that light Russia does certainly need to be part of the resolution.

      As an aside to this situation I also look towards ukraine and kazakstan, just as a precaution, every now and then. For, I believe that these problems on Russia's western and south western border are one thing, other borders may be challenged soon - but I digress from your questions. As always, interesting. Thanks. :)
    • Mother Gorillain reply tobackfromthegraav(Show commentHide comment)
      backfromthegraav, yeah, but they are becoming secular as well.

      Gang rapes are a problem, but not by refugees, but by migrants already here and by the police who won't admit that rapes and child abuse exist.

      Civility has deteriorated in Europe, you are right, the refugees are needed to pull the social standards down any further, unless our rulers really think that they are better workers than the Germans and workers already there, which would mean they are hypocrites.

      Definitely, a Great Russian Wall is in order, and we straight-thinking people will climb over it at least in our dreams!
    • Hermes
      I fully support Russia's actions in Syria but you have to consider the Single Integrated Operational Plan when you judge the facts of the moment and in my opinion the SIOP is and has always been aimed at causing a regional nuclear conflict between Russia and a random nuclear power in the area. Washington first had to create that nuclear power so under the guise of nuclear espionage they delivered the technology and the blueprints for the weapons to the Sunni state Pakistan in the seventees of the last century.
      Of course Russia is not going to fall for it and it will hit USA in the first wave wherever the threat comes from but the americans do not believe that. They think they have got the perfect plan.
      This is the way I connect the dots.
    • Is it because I am black?in reply toMother Gorilla(Show commentHide comment)
      Mother Gorilla, the US did fire bombs at Daesh,


      but you are right that IS has never been the prime target:

      The Council on Foreign Relations puts it this way in its memo no. 9 of Oct. 2011 (!) by Bush aide Eliot Abrams: The goals of U.S. policy should be to end the violence, bring down the Assad regime, and lay the bases for a stable democratic system with protection for the Alawite, Kurdish, and Christian minorities.

      Al Queda/ISIS/Daesh/Al Nusra is not even mentioned and clearly secondary to Assad as an enemy.
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