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    US Won’t Apologize for 'Test Blasts' at Hiroshima, Nagasaki that Killed 226,000

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    Contrary to a popular assertion that nuclear bombs used on civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary to end World War II, US government documents have indicated that the atomic-bomb atrocities were "test blasts" to "justify" weapons development expense.

    On Tuesday, the 71st anniversary of the US atomic bombing of Nagasaki, a massacre just three days after the annihilation of some 146,000 people in Hiroshima, the White House has again refused to issue an apology to the people of Japan for what some historians call an act of genocide.

    Many in the United States believe that, despite the carnage, the use of the weapons was a necessary evil to bring about a quick end to World War II.

    Recently, the Obama Administration has set about to increase and make more usable the US nuclear weapon stockpile, budgeting some $1 trillion over the next 30 years toward "nuclear modernization," while Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump states blandly, "why can’t we use them?"

    To mark the anniversary of the Nagasaki attack, Loud & Clear’s Brian Becker sat down with Kevin Kamps, an activist with the radioactive watchdog organization Beyond Nuclear.

    Why does the White House refuse to apologize and why is it upgrading nuclear weapons?

    "It is a very dangerous time that we are in with these upgrades. The US is upgrading its nuclear arsenal at a cost of $1 trillion over the next 30 years, under the Obama Administration, from someone who, in Prague, who said in 2009, that we need to get rid of these things," stated Kamps.

    "One of the historic failures to live up to an opportunity was when Obama visited Hiroshima and talked about the horror of the nuclear bomb — which was good — but the thing he left out, incredibly enough, was the impact of the radioactivity on people from the bombs," said the activist. "He talked about the blast and the fire, but he didn’t mention the radioactivity, which is a huge component of a nuclear weapons, and is why those who survive the bombing are still dying from the bombing to this day, because they have fatal cancers and diseases, including genetic damage."

    "There are huge opportunities to try to abolish these things and learn those lessons that are being missed," stated Kamps.

    Why was the second bomb dropped in Nagasaki after the horror of Hiroshima?

    "The death toll was measured in the tens of thousands of lives lost in the instant of being vaporized at ground zero," said Kamps. "The reason why the [second] bomb was dropped, three days later, was that the first bomb was a uranium bomb and they knew that it was going to work because they had tested it before they dropped it on Hiroshima, killing 100,000 people instantly. The second bomb was a plutonium bomb, a more complicated bomb, and they had to test it to determine if it would really work."

    "The US did test the bomb Trinity in New Mexico a few weeks earlier, and it did work in New Mexico, and it did work in Nagasaki, and these were tests actually," said the activist. "An expert actually got his hands on the primary documents from the US government for the committee that was responsible for determining the targets for these bombs, and they spoke in these terms that these were 'test blasts.'"

    "Later the Department of Energy provided a list of the test blasts that they had done," said Kamps. "What were the first three? Trinity, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki, and when he called attention to this they quickly changed the documents so that they did not list Hiroshima and Nagasaki as test blasts. That’s what they were."

    "The US had spent billions of dollars of 1940s money on these projects, they had spent all of this money, and in their mind they had to justify the expenditure."

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      terryjohnodgersin reply tochoticastile(Show commentHide comment)
      choticastile, no one can apologize for the actions of others, especially of those who have gone before us. Any apology offered is just empty rhetoric bereft of any true sorrow which renders it thus, just empty words without meaning.
    • Marc Nonnenkampin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, sounds like she came from a very backward upbringing. Did she grow up in a small rural community, or was she from a larger city? The Japanese I have met were far more professional and sophisticated than that. One from business school was sent to the USA (at company expense) to earn an MBA. He worked for a paper making company. The other one in business school was a woman, and very quiet. She came from a prominent family and was more concerned with making American friends.
    • Victor S
      They want an apology for a few hundred thousand, but where's the apology to Russia, that lost 30 million? Or millions of other nations? Or does everyone already believe that it's Russia that started the war, not Germany? 100 million died because of that war, a good portion of them civilians, but other than Holocaust victims, nobody mentions them much!

      Russia been testing their military hardware in Syria, in warlike conditions, and we all applaud them, and we should, because even though any war and violence is bad, what choice do we have? Maybe it's true that Japs were gonna surrender before bombing, and maybe whoever is responsible for it, did it for evil reasons, but that doesn't change the fact that Japs started the war before even Germany did, even though officially they are the culprits. And if Japs did start the WW2 in 1937 because of war with China, then maybe it was some kind of justice carried out, that it ended so tragically for them.
    • supportin reply toMarc Nonnenkamp(Show commentHide comment)
      Marc Nonnenkamp, the 1970's and the 2010's are two entirely different eras in history and in worldview. The first Japanese autos were just gaining dominance in the US market, there was no InterNet nor even an inkling of such a tool ever being available, and nations still had psychological, cultural, intellectual and social borders then.

      She was not unsophisticated, was related to the CEO of Iwasu Iron Works (niece, I believe) was a paid-up member of the Japanese Communist Party and was multilingual on a level usually reserved for diplomatic personnel.

      Westerners do not have the monopoly on being nitwits. It only seems that way sometimes lol Actually the factory workers and machinists and construction workers I met in the bars of Monzen were much friendlier than the members of the thief class. If you think skills-free degreed Yanks are trapdoor spider people, try on one of their automotive engineers sometime.

      S.I. Hayakawa, Seiji Ozawa and Kent Nagano and their heritages and beneficences were and are major influences in my life notwithstanding. Sadly I challenge you to find any philosophical works by Hayakawa in a public library these days.

      Or Santyana come to that.
    • Marc Nonnenkampin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, interesting. Modern Japan is one of the first countries in the world to experience both a demographic collapse and the collapse of their asset market - note especially stocks, bonds and real estate. Tokyo-Yokohama remains the largest metro region on earth (something like 33 million people) so the decline is not much in evidence there. But leave Tokyo and travel to the Japanese countryside - no more people (especially younger ones) and far less traffic. This phenomenon has since spread to much of the rest of the world. Something like 80 percent of the political jurisdictions on earth have a human fertility rate at or below the level of replacement. Demographics is the big reason for the emerging global asset market collapse, deflation, pension system bust, collapse in consumer demand, collapse in commodity prices (with special attention to the energy market). One comment on Japanese autos. Demand is and has been so slack in Japan that export markets are their sole salvation. They are powerful in the Americas, in Europe, Africa, and even dominant in much of the Asia-Pacific region (one exception is Mainland China).
    • supportin reply toMarc Nonnenkamp(Show commentHide comment)
      Marc Nonnenkamp, I prefer doing business with Chinese but chacun a son gout.
    • Marc Nonnenkampin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, you and many others will get their wish. China will emulate what was done first by Japan, and then by Korea - and on a far bigger scale. China is already the number one manufacturing nation on earth (50 percent of the world total). Their GDP is larger than that of the USA when one uses certain measurements such as PPP. Their auto market is the largest in the world as well - global analysts expect it to reach 30 million units per annum in the near future. China is already the number one market for both GM and Volkswagen, who continually compete for the number one spot in China. The largest Chinese automaker is SAIC, which has major joint ventures with both GM and VW. A few years ago, SAIC merged (bought) Nanjing Automotive, which was the oldest carmaker in China (founded in 1947). Nanjing had just purchased most of what had been Austin-Rover of the UK, and today SAIC owns the famous plant in Longbridge, England. SAIC sells the Roewe brand at home (they cannot use the Rover name as it belongs to Land Rover, now part of Tata Motors of India) and they export the MG brand (Morris Garages) to more than 30 countries. They also own the rights to a number of dormant brands such as Austin, American Austin, Wolseley, Vanden Plas and Sterling (not to be confused with Sterling Trucks, which belongs to Daimler AG of Germany). Sterling once sold cars in the USA, all of them built on Honda platforms.
    • supportin reply toMarc Nonnenkamp(Show commentHide comment)
      Marc Nonnenkamp, Japan has the American fiscal disease of borrowing 20 times earnings then getting angry because they cannot pay the bills. Chinese save.

      Off the top of my head I would think it more likely Japan would go to war with the USA than China. Colonel Donovan bankrolled the Red Chinese revolutionaries at the same time we were fronting for Chiang. Chinese and Irish laborers built the American railroads. Chinese were trading with the First Nations in Vancouver hundreds of years before Columbus was a gleam in his father's eye. Most importantly they like the dividends from the T-notes and the young and often brainless but earnest US entrepreneurs rolling the dice in their country.

      Also the Chinese are upfront with their intentions. If Japan pulls a swifty, as before we will be blindsided.
    • Marc Nonnenkampin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, hopefully there will NO war, anywhere. China was one of the very first civilizations and "superpowers" of recorded human history, along with India, Mesopotamia, the Aztec Empire and the Inca Empire. When one talks about "debt" in the modern world, one must count not merely conventional debt, but unfunded liabilities and derivative financial instruments as well - they will make number balloon. When one does this, the mother of all debtor nations is the USA, with something like 98 percent of the world total. The EU is next with about 2 percent. Japan is third, and the rest of the world combined is miniscule by comparison. Unfunded liabilities are promises to pay things such as social security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other major government benefit programs - they are no longer on the actual balance sheet. Ditto with derivative financial instruments, which are "contingent liabilities" or "off balance sheet" items in the notes of company annual reports. This is systemic, and is already on the cusp of taking down major money center banks such as Citigroup, Barclays Bank, Unicredit, Deutsche Bank and Commerzbank (to name only a few of the larger ones). I concur with you 100 percent that China will reclaim her historical role as a major global economic and financial power, Hong Kong, Macao and Shenzen are on the cutting edge, attracting talent from all over the globe.
    • support
      Both Japanese and Chinese are pretty nice people taken one at a time. Given that, there is reason to hope for the best.

      It would help lots if current global political affairs were not following a plot line easily 100 times stupider than the worst Itchy and Scratchy Show cartoon except that no one is laughing. International relations should be making agreeable trade deals then going out for dinner at the expense of the happy seller after the contracts are all signed, not sending young people out to blast each other to smithereens over bupkis.

      Here is the creme of American symphonic conducting, our new Leonard Bernstein, with Hilary Hahn on the violin. I heard Kent Nagano's wife perform on the piano in Charlottesville a few years back and she is no slouch either. Good stuff.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGEGl5bdbk
    • Alektrionin reply toMarc Nonnenkamp(Show commentHide comment)
      Marc Nonnenkamp, this is basic history, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it. You do know the US and UK were already demanding unconditional surrender as of November 1943 in the Cairo Declaration, right ? Churchill and FDR - the Old Empire and the New Empire - were already planning the post-WWII global system at that point, and they wanted total control over the nations they were conquering - Germany, Italy and Japan. The Japanese were horrified at the thought of being occupied, and having their basic society structure changed by conquerors - they had planned on making some military gains, and then negotiating the end of the War with some modest gains, as they had done with the Russians 40 years before. They didn't offer a Formal Proposal for Surrender, that's not how things are done- they floated offers for negotiated settlements to third parties like the Swiss, and they tried to have Russia negotiate with the Anglos for them (they thought the Russians owed them, since they refrained from attacking the USSR in the East while the Germans were pounding Moscow and Leningrad and Stalingrad in the West).

      See Wikipedia Surrender_of_Japan or Frank, Richard B. (1999). Downfall: the End of the Imperial Japanese Empire, for example.

      All of 1945 the Japanese leadership was looking for a way to end the war with some modicum of dignity - it was the "unconditional Surrender" stance of the USA and UK that was the problem, prolonging the War. The Emperor thought if they won one more good battle in early 1945, they might get better settlement terms, but they all knew the War was lost.

      In the end, the USA got to occupy and modify Japan - the only concession the Japanese got from their negotiations with Russia and the Anglos was to keep the Royal Family.
    • Marc Nonnenkampin reply toAlektrion(Show commentHide comment)
      Alektrion, thanks for the detailed explanation. I was not aware that Japan had already agreed to surrender, but I am very much aware of the fact that the Allies had decided to demand an unconditional surrender from Germany as early as 1943. The brave people who tried to assassinate Hitler on July 20, 1944 at the Wolf's Lair retreat in East Prussia had the goal of trying to obtain a negotiated peace if they had succeeded in removing Hitler from the government. Both America and the UK also had plans for Germany and Central Europe before they had officially consulted with the USSR which would have been considerably more generous toward Germany and other countries in the region in terms of territory and and in terms of human settlement (i.e., not as much forced human displacement as took place in 1945 and immediately thereafter). Winston Churchill wanted a restored Habsburg Monarchy which would have included southern Germany, Austria and Hungary. Both Churchill and Roosevelt would have made concessions for France in the west, but the basic thrust of their approach was to turn the clock back somewhat - i.e., an independent Brandenburg-Prussia, Saxony, Bavaria, Austria and a Kingdom of Hanover where Lower Saxony is today. They would have removed East Prussia and Danzig permanently, but would have left Germany with all of Silesia, Pomerania and East Brandenburg - territory which was transferred to the new Republic of Poland when the USSR insisted that Poland be shifted to the west, and when eastern Polish territory was transferred to both Belarus in the north and to the Ukraine in the south. In the process, many of the civilians from these areas (including Ukrainians) were moved into the annexed German provinces. Interesting that you mention the Japanese Imperial family, because Churchill had similar ideas for the Habsburgs of Austria-Hungary, the Wettins of Saxony, the Wittelsbachs of Bavaria and the House of Hanover in Lower Saxony. The current Royal family in the UK goes back to Hanover (the time of George I), the House of Wettin (the husband of Queen Victoria came from Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha in Thurinigia) and the House of Oldenburg from Greece (the husband of the current Queen Elizabeth II).
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      michaelin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, sorry to come in late, but your last line reminded me of the final scene in the Jerry Lewis movie; Which Way to the Front? Something about Jerry being in disguise and talking with the Japanese High Command about how they could lose the war and clean up afterwards with radios etc. :)
    • supportin reply tomichael(Show commentHide comment)
      michael, Jerry Lewis was/is a very impactful film industry innovator in terms of technique and directorial business management as well as a comedian. He wrote a book called The Total Film Maker in the 1970's which is still the Rosetta Stone of film directors and producers in the USA. You may view it gratis online as an old copy of it runs in the neighborhood of 700 to 1500 dollars though it is only a couple of hundred pages.
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      michaelin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, thanks, i'll check that one out. It was interesting see the films he made after the dissolution. He seemed too to have a european vogue, much like Nina Simone and others, but in the us he was considered still geeky I believe. I think that he, like a few others also had a reputation for being difficult to work with. But, some of those films... :)
    • supportin reply tomichael(Show commentHide comment)
      michael, at the time Mr. Lewis took up teaching, his object was to save Hollywood. TV at that time (1965-1975) was far and away technically superior to what the film industry was putting out yet no one in the TV audience in the USA had yet to pay directly for it. Teaching a new generation rather than acting and producing (though he did also produce several more films during and after his teaching work) took precedence over acting.

      Few analyze Mr. Lewis' work from a directorial standpoint but he was Woody Allen the beta version. French audiences appreciated the novelty though of how he set up his shots, his timing, and after all, mime and the various types of formal clowning, along with commedia dell'arte from Italy, is pretty much a French invention going back hundreds of years.

      Personally I would trade one Dorothy Dandridge or Lena Horne for 100 Billy Holidays or Nina Simones, but what did in the latter from a technical standpoint more than anything else was the inability of the latter two to work with formally trained sidemen and arrangers.

      The other bit was the latter two never really had the budget for doing ten or twenty takes in the better recording studios as did Dorothy and Lena. Dorothy and Lena also were superb athletes as much as they were torch singers: maintaining physical strength counts for alot in vocal work of any kind.
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      michaelin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, thanks for that. Reminds me to get out one of the Blues compilations with those four ladies. I'll give it a good listen to as it's been a while. :)
    • supportin reply tomichael(Show commentHide comment)
      michael, as another oldie but a goodie, Etta James is my fave next to Lena. Down home and dirty!
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      michaelin reply tosupport(Show commentHide comment)
      support, another one to chase up in the collection! :)
    • support
      Here is just a foretaste of Etta as portrayed by Beyonce in the film Cadillac Records. Compare this to Etta's version when you look her work up.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZVQD9piv7A

      BTW this is pretty much how my Detroit looked and felt like in the late 60's when I attended Wayne State U. I walked past Motown's Blue Box every day on the way to classes.

      For the very best sound from your computer and provided you have at least a reference-grade (or flat response type) pair of headphones, install the freeware ASIO4All from www.asio4all.com

      When you do install it, do not forget to tick the "Install Control Panel" checkbox as you will need it to get the best sound. Pin all the sliders to the right in the Control Panel then let it rip.

      CAUTION: oversampling (which is how this software works) also drastically increases your audio volume on your computer so ramp down your system volume by half prior to trying this out. The foolproof system is to start your tune BEFORE you put the headphones on :) This VST takes your sampling rate of 44.1 KHz for MP3's and boosts it a max of 2,048 times so what you hear are all the details of the master 168-track recording.

      If your audio still sounds a bit itchy and scratchy, the impedance (in ohms) of your headphones probably do not match the impedance of the computer headphone output.

      My headphones are from the 1970's so they only draw 8 ohms. Most headphones now except iPod type ear inserts run around 60 ohms. Beyerdynamics sells headphones which typically run 600 ohms. (the higher the impedance, the better the sound with new phones; my Sansui SS-20's sound better than most new studio grade phones but you have to know how to set them up).
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